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by orezeno
Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:27 am
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: 8K Stone Investment
Replies: 45
Views: 7102

Re: 8K Stone Investment

Edge retention continues to increase as the angle decreases. VG-10 at 12 degrees will out cut S90V at 25 degrees. Here is some well controlled and objective edge retention testing so you don't have to take layman's opinion on it. Thanks for link. I've read that article and I've read his book also. ...
by orezeno
Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:19 pm
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: Chosera 800 vs 1000
Replies: 13
Views: 3373

Re: Chosera 800 vs 1000

I suggest the SG 500 and SG 2K. I've used the SG stones for many years and have always thought that the 2K is the standout stone. It cuts much like the 1K, has a better finish, and leaves a nice toothy edge. Many love the 500 as well. It is great for quickly restoring the edge on a knife that has no...
by orezeno
Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:19 pm
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: How do you clean a strop?
Replies: 19
Views: 2137

Re: How do you clean a strop?

ken123 wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:30 pm Try the pencil eraser mentioned above or separately use lexol. On nanocloth don't use alcohol. Green rouge - try Dawn dish soap.

Ken
Ok, what does one use to clean nanocloth?
by orezeno
Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:10 am
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: How do you clean a strop?
Replies: 19
Views: 2137

Re: How do you clean a strop?

I use isopropyl alcohol (IPA); applied liberally. It lifts old abrasive and embedded steel. I pour some IPA on the strop then use the spine of a knife, or whatever is handy, to scrape off whatever residue is on the strop. I finish by wiping with a rag. This takes minutes. You will hear that IPA is a...
by orezeno
Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:20 pm
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: 8K Stone Investment
Replies: 45
Views: 7102

Re: 8K Stone Investment

Are you saying most people thing higher grit = more sharpness or a "better" edge because they can't get a sharp edge off a 500 grit stone? If that's the case, I question how they're getting a sharp edge off an 8K stone. Generally, when we're first starting out, we don't get a very sharp e...
by orezeno
Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:50 pm
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: 8K Stone Investment
Replies: 45
Views: 7102

Re: 8K Stone Investment

The polish is secondary. Improved edge performance is primary if good technique is used. Ken I'm sure I don't have good technique. Good edge performance in terms of sharpness so easier cutting? Yes. That's the idea. There are situations where a highly refined edge is expected. To produce this corre...
by orezeno
Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:54 pm
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: How low can you go?
Replies: 8
Views: 1211

Re: How low can you go?

It looks to me as if he is thinning on the first stone. Certainly a low angle 5-10 degrees. Also the sound is one you get when abrading a larger surface. He's at a higher angle on the second stone which is where the edge is established. I enjoyed that "notional" strop on newsprint. :-)
by orezeno
Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:35 pm
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: Cbn and nanocloth comparison 0.5 poly
Replies: 21
Views: 2292

Re: Cbn and nanocloth comparison 0.5 poly

How is the .25 poly working out? Ken Ken, huge kudos go to you for taking the trouble to bring these products to us! I'm sure that it is a lot of effort. It is obvious you have very high standards for quality, and are unwilling to compromise those standards. I really appreciate the opportunity to &...
by orezeno
Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:15 pm
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: Sharpening extremely dull edge or crappy steel
Replies: 9
Views: 921

Re: Sharpening extremely dull edge or crappy steel

I was recently tasked by a friend to sharpen her four very dull kitchen knives, two of which barely had an edge bevel left and were not much sharper than the knive's spines. I pretty much had to create a new bevel, which was a tough task on my Cerax #320. The stone was dished terribly by the end. W...
by orezeno
Sat May 29, 2021 4:28 pm
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: Good practical comments video for new shapeners.
Replies: 26
Views: 2570

Re: Good practical comments video for new shapeners.

[...] But, and I doubt we're disagreeing here, maybe just for fun and a little very pleasurable performance I do think edges get noticeably better off the strops, particularly where diamond compound is involved. For me, the stropping compound is the most important thing. These days I'm using CBN an...
by orezeno
Sat May 29, 2021 10:24 am
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: Good practical comments video for new shapeners.
Replies: 26
Views: 2570

Re: Good practical comments video for new shapeners.

@Greg (orezeno). My current regime is that I de-burr on each stone through my progression including the final stone and then strop on bare newsprint and I find that to be pretty effective. If I'm in the mood I will then go through rough moo & roo, followed by smooth moo & roo again with no ...
by orezeno
Fri May 28, 2021 12:09 am
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: Why my knife always dull ?
Replies: 13
Views: 1317

Re: Why my knife always dull ?

You might be surprised how well you can get an inexpensive knife to perform. How about we discuss your sharpening method a bit? Can you post pictures of your knife in its current state? What "stone" are you using? Who, on YouTube, did you model your sharpening process after? Even if the an...
by orezeno
Thu May 27, 2021 11:45 pm
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: Good practical comments video for new shapeners.
Replies: 26
Views: 2570

Re: Good practical comments video for new shapeners.

Carbon Fiber strops? Apparently it's a "thing" now. :?: :?: :?: I find that bare newsprint does a pretty good job for most situations and it's FREEEEEEEEEEE.............. I just had to know, so I followed Ryky's strop progress. At the time (2018-ish) he wanted to move from a wood strop mo...
by orezeno
Mon May 24, 2021 10:47 pm
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: Wish me luck...
Replies: 20
Views: 1607

Re: Wish me luck...

I figure I'll practice every night (or every other night) for a week or two to see if I can start getting some consistency. I think you have had a great early result, and that you will be surprised how much comfort with the motion you will gain with a couple of weeks of practice. And the key to pra...
by orezeno
Wed May 12, 2021 8:26 pm
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: Cbn and nanocloth comparison 0.5 poly
Replies: 21
Views: 2292

Re: Cbn and nanocloth comparison 0.5 poly

I'm dying to get the Kato sg2 damascus 210mm. The one I sharpened was black-etched Damascus. It was a stunningly beautiful knife. The knife came with the core steel unexposed (or poorly exposed) so it was clear that the intention is for the owner to put their edge on it. Sharpening it was no challe...
by orezeno
Tue May 11, 2021 7:25 pm
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: Cbn and nanocloth comparison 0.5 poly
Replies: 21
Views: 2292

Re: Cbn and nanocloth comparison 0.5 poly

[/quote] I look forward to our thoughts on them once you receive them. I like that idea. Very interested in the results of your progression. Please post when you finish, love this type of experimentation. This is how we get better! OK. I've had the nanocloth strops for a little while now and have so...
by orezeno
Tue May 04, 2021 8:10 pm
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: Factory Edge Micro-chipping
Replies: 13
Views: 1200

Re: Factory Edge Micro-chipping

[...] They say when you get in the rhc clouds at 63-65 you run this risk of chipping but these days alot more blacksmiths are doing it so I think they've found a way to get around it. Knives cut better and longer with an acute bevel geometry (even with a dull (ish) edge). For knives that I receive ...
by orezeno
Tue May 04, 2021 7:36 pm
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: 3K Diamond Plate
Replies: 9
Views: 1022

Re: 3K Diamond Plate

Also here is the brush being referred to. I know this cleaning part of the process is often considered trivial but if you are doing a number of stones getting this right makes all the difference. 20210422_165216.jpg Ken I'd say not trivial at all if you care about maximum life of the stone. I have ...
by orezeno
Sat May 01, 2021 6:10 pm
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: Strop kit vs finer grit stone?
Replies: 25
Views: 3648

Re: Strop kit vs finer grit stone?

As my next investment, would I be better off with a Strop kit or add higher grit stone? Though it is really a matter of taste, I'd suggest the strop kit. For most, the slight amount of give in a strop really helps clean up the edge. It is less utilitarian, but the 8K Glass Stone is a very nice poli...
by orezeno
Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:27 am
Forum: Sharpening Advice
Topic: 3K Diamond Plate
Replies: 9
Views: 1022

Re: 3K Diamond Plate

[...] But instead of a set number of strokes you may want to vary your strokes for each knife, letting burr, a close look at scratches, light reflections and the particular steel/knife be your guide. If 10 strokes gives you a bit of a burr and establishes a new scratch pattern, then you don't need ...