Shiro Kamo R2 210

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Chefspence
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Shiro Kamo R2 210

Post by Chefspence » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:58 pm

I've recently had the chance to try the 210 of this line after having used the 240, which I really enjoyed. This knife was no different in enjoyment other than one big thing, the Damascus cladding which I will get to.

I borrowed the knife from Gopher to try before deciding to buy, and I thank him for his generosity. First, the knife is an older version that still has the ho/horn handle on it. I don't know how old that makes it, but it's definitely used. F&f was great all around. The handle was still good with no noticeable gaps or steps. The choil and spine are very comfortable as well. The profile is one of my favorites. It has a good flat at the heel with a slow sweep I'd say and has a small flat area towards the tip. You can rock, chop, etc just fine. The knife is thin, yet sturdy with a very nimble feel. The grinds from Kamo are fantastic allowing for good performance, though not lasery, but who cares...it's not a "laser". Food release is good enough. Having used a Takeda, nothing lives up to that, but the release is better than many flat knives I've used. Al in all it's a fantastic all around package of a knife. The edge was very sharp and smooth. I don't know what Gopher did to it but it obviously takes a crips, clean edge. I didn't do nearly enough to test retention, but it's R2, so I'm sure it's great. I didn't sharpen or touch it up at all so no comment there. The appearance of the knife is still pretty, though it did lose its shininess over time. The Damascus was a bit dull. The only area that detracted from its attractiveness is the cladding itself. As I said earlier, the cladding was not smooth at all like the 240 I used. It was very rough and grippy which created detectable drag through ingredients. I will say it still performed well. When I noticed that it seemed to have the feeling of resistance in some cuts, I put it side by side with my ps60 just because that knife has no cladding and is very smooth. Even though the Kamo had a better edge, the ps had less resistance. I ran my fingers over the Damascus and it felt rough. I put both knives over the sink and got them a little wet, then ran my fingers over each in sort of a pinch like you would feel the thinness of an edge. Even when wet the Kamo had this serious drag to it where as the ps was basically slippery and smooth. For this reason, and his reason alone, I could not purchase his knife. If it were new I doubt this problem would exist and it would probably be in my roll. Not having extensive use with Damascus, I can't say if this is normal, and would ask someone to chime in on this subject. I can say I've used some Damascus knives and they did not have that issue. Still a killer knife. Thanks again Gopher, and thanks for reading my first official review

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Re: Shiro Kamo R2 210

Post by Kit Craft » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:19 pm

Thank you for taking the time to give your thoughts on this knife, Spence. I have heard others talk about drag with damascus before. I don't like damascus in general so I avoid buying it however some other finishes do this as well. KU, Nashiji etc.

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Re: Shiro Kamo R2 210

Post by Altadan » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:35 pm

This is a rather old post, but why not:

I recall the Yoshimi R2 to have a similar drag, and someone suggested giving it a nice 400-800 grit sandpaper treatment.
Obviously, that sounds very scary for someone holding a new knife, or anyone who's never modified a finish before. However, it's pretty easy to do (though takes some patience, and slow, thorough swipes to make it nice), and can highly improve penetration to such knives. To retain visibility of damascus, I'd recommend mounting the sandpaper on something hard but flexible, like an eraser or something. Then, passing it from the spine towards the edge, till the whole blade has a uniform scratch pattern.
Beyond 800 grit things start getting shinier (which is pretty) and stickier.
Etching, apparently, is also much easier to accomplish, and is not an expensive endeavor at all ^_^

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