Takayuki Kengata bunkas

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Takayuki Kengata bunkas

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I'm more interested in the 190/202mm length bunka. They look beautiful. Seems to have a hard shoulder and thin grind. Reminds me of a Moritaka choil shot. Anyone ever used one?

Couple questions;
Is kanji embossed or screened?
What's the true length of the blade?
How's the performance?
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Reminds me also of a moritaka grind, with a kioshi look.
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Cutuu wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:46 pm Reminds me also of a moritaka grind, with a kioshi look.
Exactly! Very curious.
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I almost bought the 200, but it seems to have a slight curve throughout. May wait and watch on this one.
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Re: Takayuki Kengata bunkas

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Interesting knive? Looks almost looks like the Anyru AS knives that are sold on Japanny.com. I like the larger size and it seems almost like a gyuto tweener knive, but I’ve gone down the bunka road before and end up selling them because they really don’t do anything that a gyuto can do better.
Unfortunately, since it’s a Takayuki knife I won’t even consider it. Wish they would return to the 15 dollar ho wood/buffalo handles as well.
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Re: Takayuki Kengata bunkas

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Chicagohawkie wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:34 am Interesting knive? Looks almost looks like the Anyru AS knives that are sold on Japanny.com. I like the larger size and it seems almost like a gyuto tweener knive, but I’ve gone down the bunka road before and end up selling them because they really don’t do anything that a gyuto can do better.
Unfortunately, since it’s a Takayuki knife I won’t even consider it. Wish they would return to the 15 dollar ho wood/buffalo handles as well.
Why dont u like takayukis?
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Re: Takayuki Kengata bunkas

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Cutuu wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:47 am
Chicagohawkie wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:34 am Interesting knive? Looks almost looks like the Anyru AS knives that are sold on Japanny.com. I like the larger size and it seems almost like a gyuto tweener knive, but I’ve gone down the bunka road before and end up selling them because they really don’t do anything that a gyuto can do better.
Unfortunately, since it’s a Takayuki knife I won’t even consider it. Wish they would return to the 15 dollar ho wood/buffalo handles as well.
Why dont u like takayukis?
Yes. Do tell.
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It all stems from an event years ago when they were part of a housewares event in Chicago. Presented to big box retailers underspeced knives at huge margins. Business is business, but being passionate about J knives it didn’t resonate well with me. That’s the short story after a little Q and A I left shaking my head. They are pretty big in Japan and sell to anyone and everyone. To each their own, but I’m more into the handmade side of j knives and not so much the manufactured side of j knives.
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Chicagohawkie wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:32 pm It all stems from an event years ago when they were part of a housewares event in Chicago. Presented to big box retailers underspeced knives at huge margins. Business is business, but being passionate about J knives it didn’t resonate well with me. That’s the short story after a little Q and A I left shaking my head. They are pretty big in Japan and sell to anyone and everyone. To each their own, but I’m more into the handmade side of j knives and not so much the manufactured side of j knives.
That makes sense. I believe you felt similiar about kikiuchi, because of same, perhaps similiar event. I will say my takayuki ginsan is an awesome knive that i feel is worth the cash, eventhough it wasn't inexpensive. Also the doi was full of craftsmanship, which was also a takayuki.
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I get that. It's why even if their vg10 knives are decent I'll never get one because they're the same as a dozen other knives out there. This line does look a bit different though, and I do like the height and the "tweener" length. I also agree bough that I can probably do just as much with any of my 210's. I'm a sucker for the hammering :oops:
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Cutuu wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:38 pm
Chicagohawkie wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:32 pm It all stems from an event years ago when they were part of a housewares event in Chicago. Presented to big box retailers underspeced knives at huge margins. Business is business, but being passionate about J knives it didn’t resonate well with me. That’s the short story after a little Q and A I left shaking my head. They are pretty big in Japan and sell to anyone and everyone. To each their own, but I’m more into the handmade side of j knives and not so much the manufactured side of j knives.
That makes sense. I believe you felt similiar about kikiuchi, because of same, perhaps similiar event. I will say my takayuki ginsan is an awesome knive that i feel is worth the cash, eventhough it wasn't inexpensive. Also the doi was full of craftsmanship, which was also a takayuki.

You know what, your memory is much better than mine! It was a kikiuchi event! For some reason I got the two mixed up! Too many Uchis ! So, I humbly retract that statement about not buying one. Thank you cuttuu for the correction. Shit, I wish there were more specs on this. If it had a decent distal taper and a thin tip I might have to give one a go. It’s one of the few knives that has caught my eye recently. I wish I knew who forged this...... it really looks like an Anyru blade to me.
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Re: Takayuki Kengata bunkas

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Chicagohawkie wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:12 pm
Cutuu wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:38 pm
Chicagohawkie wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:32 pm It all stems from an event years ago when they were part of a housewares event in Chicago. Presented to big box retailers underspeced knives at huge margins. Business is business, but being passionate about J knives it didn’t resonate well with me. That’s the short story after a little Q and A I left shaking my head. They are pretty big in Japan and sell to anyone and everyone. To each their own, but I’m more into the handmade side of j knives and not so much the manufactured side of j knives.
That makes sense. I believe you felt similiar about kikiuchi, because of same, perhaps similiar event. I will say my takayuki ginsan is an awesome knive that i feel is worth the cash, eventhough it wasn't inexpensive. Also the doi was full of craftsmanship, which was also a takayuki.

You know what, your memory is much better than mine! It was a kikiuchi event! For some reason I got the two mixed up! Too many Uchis ! So, I humbly retract that statement about not buying one. Thank you cuttuu for the correction. Shit, I wish there were more specs on this. If it had a decent distal taper and a thin tip I might have to give one a go. It’s one of the few knives that has caught my eye recently. I wish I knew who forged this...... it really looks like an Anyru blade to me.
Haha, thats funny. Good job, way to correct it. Takayuki is really big, so i could see you mixing it up.
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I really like the look of these, wouldn't mind either size either.. I might grab one if another deal I'm hoping for falls through.
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I could see that point of view fitting Takayuki, too. Their lower end lines are very by the book products. The high end stuff, though, is remarkable. I want one of these. They look awesome.
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Agreed. I'd absolutely get one of these, kinda hung up on whether it's actual kanji or screening though.
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Chefspence wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:30 pm Agreed. I'd absolutely get one of these, kinda hung up on whether it's actual kanji or screening though.
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I don't think you could screen anything onto kurouchi, particularly onto an interupted surface like this. I would be surprised if these weren't the typical style of chiseled kanji on the right with a stamped kanji on the left.
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Re: Takayuki Kengata bunkas

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If you want one with a custom handle
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Lepus wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:53 pm I don't think you could screen anything onto kurouchi, particularly onto an interupted surface like this. I would be surprised if these weren't the typical style of chiseled kanji on the right with a stamped kanji on the left.
It's screened on the Makoto and it's a kurouchi finish.
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Re: Takayuki Kengata bunkas

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Jeff B wrote: Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:58 pm
Lepus wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:53 pm I don't think you could screen anything onto kurouchi, particularly onto an interupted surface like this. I would be surprised if these weren't the typical style of chiseled kanji on the right with a stamped kanji on the left.
It's screened on the Makoto and it's a kurouchi finish.


This looks more like laser engraving than screening unless I am mixing up my terms.
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