Need a 270mm Sujihiki

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Robenco15
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Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by Robenco15 » Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:40 pm

Hey All,

Home cook here looking for a 270mm Sujihiki. I currently own:
240mm Konosuke HD2 Gyuto
210mm Gesshin Kagekiyo White #2 Gyuto
150mm T-F Nashini Petty
Shun Classic Paring

I don’t own a slicer and would like one. I would use it for cooked meat, raw meat, fish, and whatever else. The Konosuke HD2 has worked here and there when I needed it, but I really need a Suji to complete my collection.

Carbon steel is definitely preferred. My budget tops out at $350.

I do own stones and sharpen my own knives as well.

Lastly, it’s gotta look good! :D

Thank you so much!

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Re: Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by jacko9 » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:04 pm

Rob,

I started my collection with the 240mm Konosuke HD2 Gyuto, then the 210mm B#2 Konosuke Fujiyama Gyuto, the 150mm T-F Nashiji Petty (I also got the 240mm Nashiji Gyuto that I never use) and when I thought I needed a Sujihiki I got the Kagekiyo W#2 270mm Sujihiki.

Lesson learned for me; My Gyuto's do all the slicing I need and I bought a 210mm Konosuke Fujiyama W#2 petty that is very good at slicing small roasts.

If you want to complete your knife set here is one that would compliment your other knives;

https://www.chefknivestogo.com/sag3gisu27.html

Sound like we shop at the same stores ;-)

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Re: Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by Robenco15 » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:35 pm

Ha, wow. Definitely shop at the same store!

Thanks for the recommendation. Looks amazing. Definitely on the high side of the budget but I will keep it in mind. Thanks!

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Re: Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by gladius » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:07 pm

A Moritaka Supreme AS 270 is my pick. It’s badass! Add a dark deep patina and you are one proud slicer.

https://www.chefknivestogo.com/moritaka11.html

Robenco15
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Re: Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by Robenco15 » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:40 pm

Thanks guys. Will go down their respective rabbit holes.

Have also been looking at the Gesshin Ginga White #2. Not sure if another laser is the answer.

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Re: Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by Dan_Crubenew » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:17 pm

If you have to have one. I use this one in a pro setting and it does well for me when I have the room for it.

https://www.chefknivestogo.com/kaanassu27.html

Not particularly tall and quite thin at the tip. You can get through most items in a single cut and it will do fish fabrication if you are careful with it.


I really want to pick up a Kono Fuji in 210 though for the line, I might settle for an hd2 210, one day.

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Re: Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by Drewski » Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:25 am

There's a nice 295 mm suji in the classifieds
https://www.chefknivestogoforums.com/vi ... =16&t=8425

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Re: Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by jacko9 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:29 am

Dan_Crubenew wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:17 pm
If you have to have one. I use this one in a pro setting and it does well for me when I have the room for it.

https://www.chefknivestogo.com/kaanassu27.html

Not particularly tall and quite thin at the tip. You can get through most items in a single cut and it will do fish fabrication if you are careful with it.


I really want to pick up a Kono Fuji in 210 though for the line, I might settle for an hd2 210, one day.
My Kono Fuji 210 W2 Petty is very similar to my Kono Fuji B2 Gyuto just not quite so tall but same fit and finish. Both are great!

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Re: Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by nakneker » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:16 pm

A 270 Konosuke Gyuto just listed on the BST ads for 200.00. Just a FYI.
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Re: Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by nakneker » Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:49 pm

A Kono Suji just popped up for 200 too.
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Re: Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by snipes » Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:21 am

An additional data point to keep in mind from someone who uses their suji almost as often as my gyutos. Think about how you would use it during meal service. I use mine quite a bit for large pieces of cooked meat. Slice, serve, sit down with the family. Come back for seconds...thirds...dog's portion. I don't want to fool with having to wipe the blade down and worry about it until dinner is over and it's cleanup time. That translates to at a minimum, stainless cladding for my preferences.
I won't bother listing what I own as they haven't been in stock in forever, but I went AS core, stainless cladding with a thicker spine for my type of duties.
That Anryu Dan listed ticks all my boxes.

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Re: Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by Robenco15 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:16 pm

Snipes, excellent point. Will definitely do SS or clad. Thanks.

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Re: Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by Robenco15 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:35 pm

Now thinking 300mm is going to be the size.

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Re: Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by Cutuu » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:43 pm

Robenco15 wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:35 pm
Now thinking 300mm is going to be the size.
I think 300 mm is the way to go for an all around suji imo. I also like full carbon for sujis cutting alot of proteins, patinas nicely, but that may not be the way to go for everybody.

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Re: Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by inzite » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:05 am

the mazaki sujis are very nice - gets very sharp and edge retention is quite good due to it being hardened so high.

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Re: Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by Cutuu » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:13 am

inzite wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:05 am
the mazaki sujis are very nice - gets very sharp and edge retention is quite good due to it being hardened so high.
I agree, I like full carbon for a suji unless it's super hectic and you just want stainless clad. The meat juices can be left on it for a bit to help with patina, so it "kinda" helps in maintenance. I have a toyama 300 that's quite nice. The toyamas are basically in your range of price.

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Re: Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by inzite » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:18 am

yep both are solid choices, the mazaki 300mm runs just under 300usd from cleancut

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Re: Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by Cutuu » Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:19 am

inzite wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:18 am
yep both are solid choices, the mazaki 300mm runs just under 300usd from cleancut
The Mazakis could quite easily be argued the better value, it just depends on which one you would want. They will be pretty different overall. The toyama has a different stylevaof tip and the steel will obviously be much different.

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Re: Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by inzite » Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:21 am

yep, both are solid for the price

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Re: Need a 270mm Sujihiki

Post by Robenco15 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:25 pm

Thanks guys! Is the Mazaki 300mm only available at cleancut?

Also, what is the blade height. In this video of the Masakage Koishi 300mm Sujihiki, it looks extremely tall. I'm not looking for anything that tall. I understand that is a different knife, but just as a point of reference, are we talking shorter than that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkJWhkv0fzs

Thank you!

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