It seems like most people, including myself, seem to agree Carol. Maybe Mark or, perhaps, Steve might be able to comment on these. I'm curious if any members have taken the plunge on these. They aren't something I would take a chance on blindly, but perhaps they r awesome. I'm definitely curious in the results and the reason for the apparent changes.caerolle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:33 pm I saw a mention in a recent forum post of Itto-Ryus being back in stock but more expensive than in the past, so I went and took a look. It looks to me like the ones for sale now are very different from the previous ones. The sides look smooth, the grind looks much lower, and I get the impression the spine is thicker, and the whole knife heavier. In fact, the name doesn't seem to include 'Hammered' anymore.
Am I mistaken that these are very different knives from before?
Carol
PS:
Links:
https://www.chefknivestogo.com/itha210gy.html
https://www.chefknivestogo.com/ithagy240.html
The new model appears to be far more curvy than the older ones, too. The 240 seems to not have any flat spot at all...very different knife...
The thing that bothers me most is that the reviews from the old model are on the pages for the new model, including one from me. I worry that people might use those reviews to buy what is a very different knife. Probably will email CKtG about it.
Yes, all makes sense, just seems it would have been cleaner to set up a new page for what seems to be a different model, like is done for all the other brands, even when it is a one-off thing. especially if you might be getting more of the older-style at some point. Just seems confusing given the historical context, but perhaps most people are not as OCD as I am, and won't be searching the forums for info. Of course, most of the posts on the Ittos are probably on the old forum anyhow. Maybe at the least make it more clear that you are selling very different models on the same page?ChefKnivesToGo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:41 am They’re the same blacksmith. He simply offered me these and I decided to get them. Also, most of the price increase was because of complaints about the handles so we switched them. Finally, they’re not as crazy thin as before because I told them when I met with them how many customers were chipping them so they started to make them with a more conventional edge grind.
I didn’t want to delete the old pages because I have a bunch of the old ones on order still and if they do make them I’ll most likely change the pages back. It gets old looking at lots of out of stock pages.
I can delete the reviews but it’s very difficult. I have to go through my database manually and search for them by date and there are thousands and thousands of them.
I was fortunate enough to get a 210 from the first version, which supposedly the thinnest behind the edge. I also have a 240, which was made after the knives were supposedly left a bit thicker, but it seems pretty thin still, and is a very high performer for what I need. I hate to see these go away, but from a selfish perspective, I got mine, lol.
Really, sounds like more trouble than it is worth.ChefKnivesToGo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:52 am Ok, that didn't work. I'll ask my review module designer if there is a solution.
---Jeff B wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:03 pm I would definitely list them under different names and have different product pages for them if not too terribly difficult. Could call one a Hammered and the other a KU or something along those lines. They are after all two totally different knives. Need to relist the new version on it's own page with no reviews and republish the old line with the reviews, if possible.
Like carol I don't think it's fair to the buyer that might make a purchase based reviews that's not related to the actual product.
Hmmm, for some reason I stopped getting notifications, thought the thread was dead...
