Beat up Sabatier

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Beat up Sabatier

Post by Gregory27 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:21 pm

I was at my dad's house and saw the familiar bolster of a Sabatier on a knife being used. This poor knife is ROUGH. Tipped, totally over ground, and 100% rust, despite the fact that it SHOULD be stainless, as it doesn't have brass rivets. This should be a good time.

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Re: Beat up Sabatier

Post by Jeff B » Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:52 pm

Yeah, you've got your work cut out for you on that one! Good luck and keep us posted.
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Re: Beat up Sabatier

Post by Gregory27 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:23 pm

45 minutes in.

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Post by nakneker » Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:35 pm

It’s coming along nicely, pretty cool project!
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Post by ken123 » Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:24 am

I'd offer to help but you are off to a good start.

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Post by gotmail1414 » Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:06 pm

Very cool. Look forward to updates on your progress.

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Re: Beat up Sabatier

Post by Delboy » Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:49 pm

Nice project. ‘You doing stock removal with stones, or a belt sander?

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Re: Beat up Sabatier

Post by Gregory27 » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:59 pm

Delboy wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:49 pm
Nice project. ‘You doing stock removal with stones, or a belt sander?
Using a 140 diamond plate. My workspace is a bit too cramped for power tools. I pretty well have it flattened out, at this point. Now I need to decide how the profile should look.

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Re: Beat up Sabatier

Post by lsboogy » Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:25 am

Gregory27 wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:59 pm
Delboy wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:49 pm
Nice project. ‘You doing stock removal with stones, or a belt sander?
Using a 140 diamond plate. My workspace is a bit too cramped for power tools. I pretty well have it flattened out, at this point. Now I need to decide how the profile should look.
Super cool job - if you want to restore it look at a KS profile (that's what people call the old Sab profile now) - long flat belly that could push cut, mild sweep to a high tip that allowed push/pull cutting and could rock at a pretty steep angle for bigfpger stuff. I think Sabatier realized what some of the Japanese knives could do with their flat grinds long before the rest of us - until they started putting out a belly on their blades, almost all European knives were a smooth curve

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Re: Beat up Sabatier

Post by Gregory27 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:39 am

lsboogy wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:25 am
Gregory27 wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:59 pm
Delboy wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:49 pm
Nice project. ‘You doing stock removal with stones, or a belt sander?
Using a 140 diamond plate. My workspace is a bit too cramped for power tools. I pretty well have it flattened out, at this point. Now I need to decide how the profile should look.
Super cool job - if you want to restore it look at a KS profile (that's what people call the old Sab profile now) - long flat belly that could push cut, mild sweep to a high tip that allowed push/pull cutting and could rock at a pretty steep angle for bigfpger stuff. I think Sabatier realized what some of the Japanese knives could do with their flat grinds long before the rest of us - until they started putting out a belly on their blades, almost all European knives were a smooth curve
So, at the moment, the blade length is 5" and change. The flat portion is about 3" from the bolster, until it begins curving up. Seem about right? I was leaning towards adding in a bit more curve and shortening the flat portion, maybe by half an inch, or so.

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Re: Beat up Sabatier

Post by lsboogy » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:24 am

I'm no expert on profiles - just know I was raised with old Sabatier Nogent knives, and that they feel right to me. The shortest Sabatier chef knife I have is an 8", and the flat portion is about 4 1/4" long. The 12" has a flat spot about 6". So it does not sound like it's out of line to have a 3" flat spot. Profile looks quite good to my eye. You might consider removing some of the bolster ( I did on my 8" knife many years ago) - it makes it "un collectible" but I think the knife is gorgeous right now. Use it and live long and prosper

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Re: Beat up Sabatier

Post by Gregory27 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:14 am

I think this is as cleaned up as my limited resources will allow. But I'm happy. Frankly, I feel like I should get to keep it.

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Re: Beat up Sabatier

Post by ken123 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:33 am

Go for a sharper tip :) A relatively easy fix.
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Re: Beat up Sabatier

Post by Gregory27 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:18 am

ken123 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:33 am
Go for a sharper tip :) A relatively easy fix.
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Oh... fine. It's a labor of love, after all.

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Re: Beat up Sabatier

Post by Delboy » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:04 pm

'Looks a million time better than it did!

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Re: Beat up Sabatier

Post by ken123 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:46 am

Gregory27 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:18 am
ken123 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:33 am
Go for a sharper tip :) A relatively easy fix.
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Oh... fine. It's a labor of love, after all.
Judt come at it from the top with a coarse stone. Should tske judt a couple of minutes. Good job!


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