Gyuto under $340?

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Higuma
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Gyuto under $340?

Post by Higuma » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:31 pm

1)Pro or home cook?
Home cook
2)What kind of knife do you want? Gyuto

3) What size knife do you want? 240mm/210mm

4)How much do you want to spend? Up to $340ish

5) Do you prefer all stainless, stainless clad over reactive carbon, or all reactive carbon construction? Whatever won't rust easily and has the qualities mentioned below.

6)Do you prefer Western or Japanese handle?
Either is fine
7)What are your main knife/knives now?
Nothing worth mentioning atm
8)Are your knife skills excellent, good, fair?
Japanese style, fair
9)What cutting techniques do you prefer? Push/tap chop + sometimes rock for certain ingredients

10)Do you know how to sharpen? Yes

11) Cutting veggies only as I am a vegetarian(must be able to handle hard veggies well & fine chopping). It is obvious that I want a sharp blade. But more importantly to mention:
-a durable edge that won't chip
-a blade that retains sharp edge very well
-True Forged Gyuto(no stamps preferably)

Some gyutos that interested me thus far(have reviewed many):
-Masakage Koishi Gyuto 240mm
ITEM #: KOISHI-GYUTO240
-wakui gyuto
-Konosoke Fujiyama
-Kurosaki R2 Western 240mm
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Re: Gyuto Suggestions

Post by lsboogy » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:23 pm

The Kono Fujiyama is going to be a hard to get item (you have to be ready and at your device when they come in - even a few minute delay means you probably won't get one - I've been trying for more than a year) and outside your budget. The Kurosaki (I have the AS Richmond Laser version) is a great knife - one of my chef buds still uses his every day and is about the only knife he uses. I've used a Masakage a couple time, and they are nice but I prefer a knife with a different profile.

You might seriously consider getting a Konosuke HD2 laser for your uses - one of the higher rated blades here, and I have used mine a few times (got it last fall around the same time I got a knife back from thinning - still my everyday blade) - there is a reason so many people like Konosuke blades - thing feels like a much thinner knife dropping through food - and it's pretty thin already. And if you don't like it, it will sell quick in the classifieds.

And as a first knife, you might want to look into a Kohetsu - I have several and they are great bang for the buck knives. I like them enough to have a set of three out for custom handles with Ben - not a lot of belly, but they work and work - I like them enough that I own 6 assorted Gyotus
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Re: Gyuto Suggestions

Post by Igalor » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:29 pm

Take a look at the tanaka nashiji, great all arounder, awesome steel and well within budget.

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Re: Gyuto Suggestions

Post by Higuma » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:10 am

lsboogy wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:23 pm
I've used a Masakage a couple time, and they are nice but I prefer a knife with a different profile.

What about the profile dont you like? I am looking into a blade with resistance to chipping and long lasting sharpness.

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Re: Gyuto Suggestions

Post by egolan » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:10 am

Those are some awesome knives on the want list! Tough to find a few of them.
As to the suggestions, I think Toyama may be the best knife for the money that I own.

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Re: Gyuto Suggestions

Post by Lazee » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:28 am

Igalor wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:29 pm
Take a look at the tanaka nashiji, great all arounder, awesome steel and well within budget.
available in all stainless:
www.knivesandstones.com/tanaka-ginsan-n ... ny-handle/

Or stainless clad Blue 2 carbon
www.knivesandstones.com/tanaka-blue-2-n ... less-clad/
www.chefknivestogo.com/tabl2nagy24.html

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Re: Gyuto under $340?

Post by Mac4k » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:56 pm

Where can I get the Konosuke HD2 for under $400

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Re: Gyuto under $340?

Post by lsboogy » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:09 am

Mac4k wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:56 pm
Where can I get the Konosuke HD2 for under $400
https://www.chefknivestogo.com/kohd2gy24khl.html

Right here - you might need to wait

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Re: Gyuto under $340?

Post by Drewski » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:41 pm

lsboogy wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:09 am
Mac4k wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:56 pm
Where can I get the Konosuke HD2 for under $400
https://www.chefknivestogo.com/kohd2gy24khl.html

Right here - you might need to wait
The kiritsuke 240 and western handled 240 are both on stock.

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Re: Gyuto under $340?

Post by snipes » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:51 pm

Any of the knives you listed will be more than up to the task. The Fujiyama is iron clad so I'd rule it out because of your "won't rust easy" requirement, even if it was readily available. Have you considered the Anryu series, specifically the B2 hammered? It's $100 under budget, in stock, and one heck of a knife.

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Re: Gyuto under $340?

Post by jacko9 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:54 pm

lsboogy wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:09 am
Mac4k wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:56 pm
Where can I get the Konosuke HD2 for under $400
https://www.chefknivestogo.com/kohd2gy24khl.html

Right here - you might need to wait
Well worth the wait if this knife looks like what you want. Right below where it indicates out of stock there is a email notification box to fill out and you will be notified when they come in (more regular as of lately). Just be ready to buy right after you get the notice as I have done a few times, other times when I hesitate and think about it for a while - they're gone. I have the HD2 240 Gyuto and because it is one of several knives in my home rotation I have yet to sharpen it after three years (strop only). Good luck on getting the knife that is right for you.

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Re: Gyuto under $340?

Post by lsboogy » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:03 pm

I just finished prepping lamb shanks and veg with my Kono HD2 (decided I would use it instead of my Ultimatum) - profile is good (not a Sab profile - oh well, I'll make do) and the thing just drops through food of all sorts. What a great knife - might have to start using it more. You don't realize how good th grind is on these things until you cut up a bunch of veg - I think it's about the best pull cutter I've used in a long time. Every time I use it I know why so many hold them in such high regard. Worth the wait

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Re: Gyuto under $340?

Post by Jeff B » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:36 pm

Mac4k wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:56 pm
Where can I get the Konosuke HD2 for under $400
The HD2 was my first purchase about 7 yrs ago and is still one of my favorites.

The full selection of HD2s
https://www.chefknivestogo.com/kohdkn.html
If God wanted me to be a vegetarian he wouldn't have made animals taste so good.

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Re: Gyuto under $340?

Post by snipes » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:19 am

Not trying to be the thread police here, but the OP specifically stated that he was interested in True Forged Gyuto(no stamps preferably) and half this thread has turned into an HD2 conversation that was interjected by another person's inquiry.

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Re: Gyuto under $340?

Post by ashy2classy » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:17 pm

Tanaka was already mentioned. Can't go wrong...

Blue 2 Sekiso (OOS, unfortunately)
https://www.chefknivestogo.com/tanakagyuto1.html

Blue 2 SS Nashiji
https://www.chefknivestogo.com/tabl2nagy24.html

Kanehiro AS (or ginsan)
https://www.chefknivestogo.com/ka24wa.html

Anryu Blue 2 (always worth mentioning)
https://www.chefknivestogo.com/kaanasgy24.html

Itto Ryu (I think this is essentially a Wakui?)
https://www.chefknivestogo.com/ithawh2gy24.html

Kurosaki Megumi (VG10 but heard a lot of good things about these)
https://www.chefknivestogo.com/kumegy24.html

Saji Ginsan
https://www.chefknivestogo.com/sag3gigy24.html

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Re: Gyuto under $340?

Post by Jeff B » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:28 pm

Odds are you'll never find a Kurosaki R2 Western 240mm and if you do it will be over your price point.

The Hammered wa R2 is a great knife and has a lot of character. https://www.chefknivestogo.com/kur2hadagy24.html
Available in 210 also. Both are OOS right now but you can sign up for email notification for when back in stock.
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Re: Gyuto under $340?

Post by lsboogy » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:51 pm

The old Richmond AS Laser 240 is now a Kurosaki - I asked for one on the classifieds and found one. Very nice knives and my chef bud still uses his as his almost only knife. I have tried mine a few times and it is a beast of a cutter - light, but performs like a heavy knife.

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Re: Gyuto under $340?

Post by PaulME » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:37 pm

I’m a big fan of Kurosaki. Missed the r2 hammered here but snagged one on another site, the price seems to be going up and stock seems very limited, it’s first rate and a favorite of what I have, also a fan of his brothers stuff which is more plentiful at the moment and a bit cheaper - at least for now.
Should state my preference would have been to buy it here but did not pull the trigger in time when they were in stock, (they were out of stock on other sites as well, just checked Avery few weeks and bumped into it being available (I think they only received one or two.
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Re: Gyuto under $340?

Post by lsboogy » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:59 pm

I used mine tonight on a whim - don't know why, but I remeber what brought me to this site - same knife my chef bud uses every day (he told me about this place - before that I would get a knife or two at Korin most years as a Christmas present for my self) - they sell you the most expensive knife you will buy for the most part, this place has folk who use them and trade advice. It's a great cutter, and well worth the wait - I might buy another as a gift for my cousin I like it so much, and it suits his style in the kitchen. It's a great push and pull cutter - did veg for Mac and cheese tonight (red peppers, onion, garlic) with smoked salmon mixed in and tomatoe slices on top. Mix of smoked Gouda, decent cheddar, and some raclette - the knife performed extremely well, and the food was great with a nice unoaked chard

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